[Podcast] Episode 242: Who’s Holding Your Ladder with Dr. Sam Chand

You can’t climb higher without someone steady at the base. In today’s episode of The AVAIL Podcast, leadership architect, best-selling author, and Co-Founder of AVAIL, Dr. Sam Chand joins us to revisit his foundational leadership principle from his newly updated classic, Who's Holding Your Ladder. Dr. Chand breaks down why your ascent in leadership is directly linked to the strength of your ladder holders. He shares the five essential traits every ladder holder must possess, unpacks the crucial difference between leaders and managers, and challenges us to rethink how we hire, onboard, and develop our teams. If you're serious about sustainable leadership, this conversation is a masterclass in trust, people placement, and multiplying vision through others.

00:00 Introduction with Dr. Sam Chand

1:15 Inspiration behind new edition of Who’s Holding Your Ladder?

5:42 Holding ladders before climbing them

15:18 Leaders vs. managers

18:39 Identifying good ladder holders

22:54 Advice for young pastors

25:50 Consequences of lacking strong ladder holders

29:59 Connecting with Dr. Sam Chand/leadership resources

31:36 AVAIL Journal

35:26 Final words of wisdom