[Podcast] Episode 246: Leading Through the Messy Middle with Stephan Tchividjian

What happens when your faith collides with the unknown? In this insightful episode of the AVAIL Podcast, we’re joined by Stephan Tchividjian—CEO and Founder of the National Christian Foundation of South Florida. Together with host Virgil Sierra, Stephan unpacks what it means to lead from the “messy middle,” where growth, humility, and surrender shape lasting impact. You’ll hear how authenticity with Christ, not performance, creates true influence; why pride is a subtle but dangerous threat in leadership; and how white space—not busyness—fosters deeper connection. This is a heartfelt call to slow down, listen well, and lead with intimacy.

00:00 Introduction with Stephan Tchividjian

4:12 Stephan’s passions

7:24 Current state of the church and ministry leaders

12:45 Importance of unity in the church

18:08 The messy middle

28:30 Why uncertainty is hard for leaders

33:21 One-hour coffee with young Stephan

38:38 Final thoughts

41:33 Get connected with the National Christian Foundation