[Podcast] Episode 277: The Inner Life of Leadership with Mark and Julie Appleyard

Leadership often stalls at the level of internal formation, not external strategy. In this episode of the AVAIL podcast, Mark and Julie Appleyard, founders of Anothen Global, explore how unresolved inner dynamics shape decision-making, identity, and long-term impact. Drawing from Julie’s The Boardroom of the Inner Man and their global work with leaders, they offer a clear framework for understanding the internal “voices” that compete for control and how to bring them into alignment under Christ. This conversation equips leaders to move beyond surface solutions and address what is actually driving their leadership.

00:00 Introduction with Mark and Julie Appleyard

2:13 Genesis and heart behind Anothen Global

5:07 Becoming a reformation-minded leader

7:03 Challenges and rewards of working together in ministry

12:23 Where leaders get stuck

14:38 Counsel for couples building a ministry together

17:57 Julie’s book, The Boardroom of the Inner Man

22:11 Julie’s shift from longing to lived experience

26:41 Mark’s book, Think, Speak, Live: Business from Heaven’s Perspective

28:28 Contrasting the two books

29:25 Waking up to deeper relationship with God

33:51 How to connect and where to buy books

35:29 Final words of wisdom